Is this normal for a Molt?

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Is this normal for a Molt?

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I had a total of 10-12 crabs over the past few years, and only two molted.I have three right now.And one of my crabs is molting.

Earlier today, I saw him crawling his way out of his old shell, he already lost his exoskeleton and is pink(very cute.XD) Anyways, he's missing his two pinchers and his legs.The only legs he has is the ones to hold on to the shell with. My other crab didn't lose that.

Yesterday, I got home from vacation and found this crab hanging out side his shell, lifted it up to move to isolation, because other crabs were crawling on him, when I lifted it up it fell out and half his body got stuck in the shell, it came out later and all the legs were off.Figured he was dead,because when my other crab motled his exoskeleton stayed intact.and was completely out of the shell. but I just left him alone.Went to the store, came back and saw him wiggling inside. Last night he was coming out and I noticed he was having a difficult time getting out of his shell, that's when I noticed he didn't have pinchers or walking legs.:(

I'm really worried that he won't be able to get out to eat.
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Re: Is this normal for a Molt?

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No I don't believe it's normal for that to happen. Could you give us some more information?

What is the volume of your main tank?


How many hermit crabs do you currently have? How big are they?


How long have you had the hermit crab(s) that you are concerned about?


What substrate or combination of substrates are you using? How deep is it?


What do you feed your hermit crabs?


Do you use distilled, bottled or tap water? If you are using a dechlorinator, what brand is it? Does it state to remove all heavy metals, chlorine and chloramines?


What brand of sea salt are you using to supply your hermit crabs with salt water?


What heat source are you using and where is it positioned?


Have you calibrated your thermometer(s) and hygrometer?


What is the air temperature range and humidity inside the tank? If you are using an under tank heater, what is the temperature range of the substrate (it is likely to be different to the air temperature range)?


Do you have any photos of your tank or hermit crab(s) of concern? If yes, please attach them to your post.

If you can answer these as best you can our members will be able to help you out better. :)
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Re: Is this normal for a Molt?

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As Gizaroo2 mentioned this is not normal and we do need more info to try to help. Please do answer the questions above the best you can with as much detail.
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What is the volume of your main tank? Don't know.It doesn't say.


How many hermit crabs do you currently have? How big are they? 3 crabs, one small one, One medium, one large.


How long have you had the hermit crab(s) that you are concerned about? A year


What substrate or combination of substrates are you using? How deep is it? Sand, Don't know the deepness.


What do you feed your hermit crabs? Hermit Crab Cakes, Gardener's Hermit Crab Food


Do you use distilled, bottled or tap water? If you are using a dechlorinator, what brand is it? Does it state to remove all heavy metals, chlorine and chloramines? I use water from the sink.


What brand of sea salt are you using to supply your hermit crabs with salt water? I didn't know I needed salt, don't have any.My tank isn't big enough to fit two water dishes unless I remove a hut.


What heat source are you using and where is it positioned? I live in florida, so I didn't think a heat source was needed.My tank didn't come with a cover.


Have you calibrated your thermometer(s) and hygrometer? Uh what in the world is this question? I don't know what these are.


What is the air temperature range and humidity inside the tank? If you are using an under tank heater, what is the temperature range of the substrate (it is likely to be different to the air temperature range)? I don't know how to tell the temp.Tank didn't come with temp stick.


Do you have any photos of your tank or hermit crab(s) of concern? If yes, please attach them to your post. Nope, Only of my crabs and I don't want to handle them.They pinch and I'm tired of being pinched.If I take a pic through the tank, it gets glared.

I have another crab in the same envoirment and he molted and is doing fine.

And yes I do know I need a bigger tank,but I can't afford one for a few months, as I don't get my allowance for this month or next.

All other crabs are fine.I had one of my current crabs for 2 years now.and my smallest for 3 months.This one for about 8 months.

And I have a few pictures of my healthy crabs, but at the time of pic he was in a painted shell(Don't nag me about that, he came from the store in that.I know I don't like painted shells either.) But none of my freshly molted crab.
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If this crab ends up dying, then I'm sticking with one crab.As with one crab, I can afford all those fancy things you asked me about.My mom keeps buying me crabs, I don't want anymore.

The tank I have is from wall mart $11. At the time I only had one crab, so it was a decent size.I didn't buy a thermemeter(sp?) because I didn't have enough, I didn't know they needed sea salt.

They have plenty of shells, in fact one of my crabs is changing right now.

I don't know what calibrated means, sorry.

I don't want to show pictures of my hermit crabs, because I hate holding them.One of them got me good last night, he must have smelt apple or something on my hand.

Give me a list of things I should get and maybe each month I can buy some.Tank will be the first.Thanks in advance.
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What is the volume of your main tank? Don't know.It doesn't say.
If you measure the length, width, and height we will be able to tell you the volume/gallon size of your tank.
What substrate or combination of substrates are you using? How deep is it? Sand, Don't know the deepness.
Perhaps would you have a ruler where you could put it in the sand and tell us the inches of sand you have?
What do you feed your hermit crabs? Hermit Crab Cakes, Gardener's Hermit Crab Food
A hermies diet is very important, as with all creatures, to ensure they stay healthy. They need a wide variety of food supplements such as copper, lipids, foods high in zeaxanthin many of which have bete carotene in them, high protein source, a high calcium source, chitin, cellulose, spirulina, seaweed, etc. Hermit crab foods sold on the market do not contain all the supplements a hermie needs to ensure this. Majority of the hermit crab foods sold also contain either or both Ethoxyquin and/or copper sulphate both of which are insecticides. (Hermies are from the arthropod (insect) phylum) These chemicals could potentially be dangers if in foods fed to hermies. If one opts to feed dry foods, fresh foods should be offered as well for the natural oils/juices they contain.

Please see:
http://www.crabstreetjournal.com/xoops/ ... storyid=25
There are also some higher quality freeze dried and dehydrated commercial foods that can be found at:

http://crabbywiki.com/tiki-browse_categ ... =off&type=

http://www.hermitcrabcuisine.com/
Do you use distilled, bottled or tap water? If you are using a dechlorinator, what brand is it? Does it state to remove all heavy metals, chlorine and chloramines? I use water from the sink.
Water offered to the hermies should never be given straight from the tap. The chlorine and chloramines in the water will cause blisters to the hermies gills and soft body parts. A dechlorinator should be used to remove the chlorine, chloramines, and heavy metals from it. The dechlorinator used should be free of any forms of slime coating or slime products. There is the possibility that the slime coating in the water conditioner can prevent the hermies from absorbing valuable nutrients from the foods they eat.
What brand of sea salt are you using to supply your hermit crabs with salt water? I didn't know I needed salt, don't have any.My tank isn't big enough to fit two water dishes unless I remove a hut.
A hermie needs also to be offered a dechlorinated ocean water pond. The ocean/sea mix needs to be bought at pet stores, and is one that is used in salt water fish tanks. (not the mix for freshwater tanks there is an element difference, not the already premixed hermit crab salt water, not the hermit crab salt mixes, and not sea salts sold for humans ) Ocean water helps the hermie to retain fluids between their old and new exo for easier shedding when they molt. They like to adjust the salinity levels of the water in their shells for proper osmotic balance, and each species has its own preference. If they have access to both types of water, they can adjust their own salinity level within their shells. The ocean waters will give them important trace minerals as well, that they need that they would otherwise be lacking through their diet. Making this mixture within their shells help to kill/control certain bacteria's/molds the hermie is subjected to from living in such a warm humid climate, along with helping them to control their shell waters temperature. The salinity from the ocean mix also helps them with their metabolism and the digestion of their food, and helps them to regulate their temperature as well. The salinity level needs to be 1.021-1.024. (usually obtained when mixed per package instructions)
When the ZooMed Part 2 as well as the HBH salt water mixes were tested with a hydrometer after mixing per the packages instructions, the salinity level did not register on the hydrometer.

When one mixes the ocean water, the mix should be permitted to sit for at least 12-24 hours prior to offering it to the hermies shaken a few times during this period. This ensures that the ocean mix has time to completely dissolve.

Ocean water is extremely important also if one uses distilled water. By using the ocean water it replaces the good minerals and elements that have been removed from the distilled water.

http://www.hermitcrabparadise.com/crabc ... eslist.php
What heat source are you using and where is it positioned? I live in florida, so I didn't think a heat source was needed.My tank didn't come with a cover.
Crabbers from the very southern tip have found they need some form of warming device during a few weeks during the winter, and if they have air conditioning in their home.
A hermies natural home is in the tropics.They are cold blooded creatures and must have the option of coolness and warmth to regulate their body heat. For this reason, they need a stable crabitat warmth of 74-78 F (22-25 C) degrees, and one should monitor the substrate temp too.

http://crabstreetjournal.com/xoops/modu ... storyid=69

When a hermie is subjected to a temperature of 70 degrees F, (21 C) they will begin to go into a hibernation type state. If it is not corrected, this is stressful to the hermie, and eventually lethal to them. Anything 82 degree's F (28 C), or higher, there is a high chance of them over heating, which causes irreversible damage and is lethal. With the warm side to the crabitat substrate 78-80 F (25.56-26.67 C) there should always be a cooler side as well (72-73 F/22.22-22.78 C) for the hermie to choose where they are most comfortable at.
Have you calibrated your thermometer(s) and hygrometer? Uh what in the world is this question? I don't know what these are.
Please do read through Hermit Crab Paradise’s Crab Care section. There is a LOT of information there regarding the care hermies need. Including information about humidity gauges and how to calibrate/test them.
http://www.hermitcrabparadise.com/crabcare/

It does appear your tank conditions do need tweaking and may of been partially why your hermie had a bad molt. Please do try to tweak the above and if you have further questions please do post within this thread.
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Re: Is this normal for a Molt?

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How come Spooky(my other crab) molted fine? I don't know.

Also when I was away on vacation, my mom called me and said one of my crabs buried it self in the sand, she was afraid it would die, so she unburied it and brought it to the top.

Thank you by the way.

I don't know what to do.He's alive and moves, but has a difficulty time moving.I fed him with tweezers and he ate crazy.

I thought I saw a small soft pincher, but its not in the area where the pincher would be.But it looked like a claw.
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Just like humans, some hermies have different tolerances to things as well. But the above should be tweaked ASAP for the other hermies you have. And please do read the Crab Care section. Wai spent a LOT of time updating it with todays research, experience, and knowledge.
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Are you able to pick up things like that at a pet store, I notice many pet stores near me don't sell hermies or hermit crab items.But up north petco and all them do.

Down here in Sarasota, the pet shop doesn't have any of it.So I'm not sure where to find all this.

I wish my mom would stop getting me hermit crabs.

I hope my other two can wait until October.
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Thanks for the info.I bookmarked it and started reading the beginning.As soon as I get money, I'm getting a new tank and try to get sea salt, and a thermometer.
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